Humans can't be held accountable for their actions because underlying factors such as environment, genetics, and the theory of determinism prove otherwise.
This seems like a really bold statement that a lot of people would disagree with, but it also seems interesting. Do you plan to talk about human actions in general, or specific aspects of human action? For example, are you going to argue that human's cant be held accountable for actions such as murder and rape specifically, or are you taking a different aspect?
Yes I am taking that aspect. I will be talking about how people can't necessarily be punished for murder or rape, because other factors play a role. For example, what their parents and childhood life was like could have made their actions inevitable. It will be difficult, but I am going to use some philosophers and psychologists who believe in my thesis. I am glad you think it looks interesting.
Just so you know, I don't necessarily believe my thesis. I just thought it would be a fun argument. ... I would say no, we can't be sure that we are born with the knowledge of right and wrong. There is a philosophical theory which argues that right and wrong is a social invention. One way to look at it is in prehistoric times. Suppose cavemen were chaotic creatures with no ethics or morals. A cavemen would be constantly watching his back, because he would never know if and when another cavemen would club him in order to steal his wife, food, or other possessions. Eventually one caveman would confide in an other and use the rule "i won't hit you, if you don't hit me." In this sense, the cavemen invented a sort of ethics in order for survival.
What philosophers are you planning on using in your argument? Older more ancient, "classical" philosophers such as Socrates and Plato? or perhaps philosophers from only a few hundred years ago recent like Rene Descartes?
I am looking at philosophers from a few hundred years ago like John Stuart Mill and even Issac Bashevis Singer who was born in 1904. I like Rene Descartes, however, we differ in opinions. I might use him for my opposition though.
So are your referring to people who have become in trouble with the law? That they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? This is a very broad thesis.
Jeremy, yes there are studies done recently as opposed to those from a hundred years ago. Unfortunately, they are all against determinism and the idea that our destiny is predetermined. I do use a little of this info in my opposition.
Angie,yes it is broad. I should reword it so it's more specific. I am looking at people who are in trouble with the law specifically. I am arguing that they cannot necessarily be punished because they are not the only ones to blame for their actions.
Maybe, but I'm still arguing that the people who commit the crime don't feel conviction because this is just the way they are. I don't think in that case the person doing wrong would make an excuse for their actions, because they see no wrong in it. I do think that an outside observer would see these justifications I'm giving as an excuse, however.
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This seems like a really bold statement that a lot of people would disagree with, but it also seems interesting. Do you plan to talk about human actions in general, or specific aspects of human action? For example, are you going to argue that human's cant be held accountable for actions such as murder and rape specifically, or are you taking a different aspect?
ReplyDeleteYes I am taking that aspect. I will be talking about how people can't necessarily be punished for murder or rape, because other factors play a role. For example, what their parents and childhood life was like could have made their actions inevitable. It will be difficult, but I am going to use some philosophers and psychologists who believe in my thesis. I am glad you think it looks interesting.
ReplyDeleteEven then do you not think that we are born with the knowledge of right and wrong??
ReplyDeleteJust so you know, I don't necessarily believe my thesis. I just thought it would be a fun argument.
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I would say no, we can't be sure that we are born with the knowledge of right and wrong. There is a philosophical theory which argues that right and wrong is a social invention.
One way to look at it is in prehistoric times. Suppose cavemen were chaotic creatures with no ethics or morals. A cavemen would be constantly watching his back, because he would never know if and when another cavemen would club him in order to steal his wife, food, or other possessions. Eventually one caveman would confide in an other and use the rule "i won't hit you, if you don't hit me." In this sense, the cavemen invented a sort of ethics in order for survival.
who is your audience in this paper? like judges and lawers? or another specific group?
ReplyDeleteYes, judges, lawyers, and anyone involved in the court system.
ReplyDeleteWhat philosophers are you planning on using in your argument? Older more ancient, "classical" philosophers such as Socrates and Plato? or perhaps philosophers from only a few hundred years ago recent like Rene Descartes?
ReplyDeleteI am looking at philosophers from a few hundred years ago like John Stuart Mill and even Issac Bashevis Singer who was born in 1904. I like Rene Descartes, however, we differ in opinions. I might use him for my opposition though.
ReplyDeleteare there similar studies like yours done recently? and if so, are you maybe using some of the main points that they may have used?
ReplyDeleteSo are your referring to people who have become in trouble with the law? That they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? This is a very broad thesis.
ReplyDeleteJeremy, yes there are studies done recently as opposed to those from a hundred years ago. Unfortunately, they are all against determinism and the idea that our destiny is predetermined. I do use a little of this info in my opposition.
ReplyDeleteAngie,yes it is broad. I should reword it so it's more specific. I am looking at people who are in trouble with the law specifically. I am arguing that they cannot necessarily be punished because they are not the only ones to blame for their actions.
ReplyDeleteDo you think people use this as an excuse to feel less conviction for doing things they know they shouldn't?
ReplyDeleteMaybe, but I'm still arguing that the people who commit the crime don't feel conviction because this is just the way they are. I don't think in that case the person doing wrong would make an excuse for their actions, because they see no wrong in it. I do think that an outside observer would see these justifications I'm giving as an excuse, however.
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